Over I don't think marriage is going to be an option for me. (5 Viewers)

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

I don't think I'll ever get married. With how high divorce rates are, I wouldn't even try. Yes, I agree that the problem with 95 percent of marriages is both the wife and husband lose attraction to each other, which causes problems in literally every other area. That's why I think if I could maintain a top physique and face when I get to my older years, I could probably have a happy marriage. But there's a problem with this: because I see everything through a very black-pilled view, I don't think I'll ever be able to love my wife, because I know that they only love me for the way I look, and if I let things slip, they would probably leave for somebody better. I just wouldn't be able to do it. I even stopped speaking to all my IRL friends because I know they wouldn't be my friends, or they would, but they'd disrespect me and treat me like the group punching bag (I know from experience) even if I was just a little more ugly or obese. Hopefully, I can grow out of this way of thinking, because I know it's immature and it's just how the real world works.

 

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

bump

 

[malickism]

because I know that they only love me for the way I look

in relationships yes, but marriage is different. your partner would have to put up with everything and “till death do us part”, so for him or her to marry you only for your looks you’d have to be htn+.

 

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

in relationships yes, but marriage is different. your partner would have to put up with everything and “till death do us part”, so for him or her to marry you only for your looks you’d have to be htn+.

The thing is, though, my personality is pretty bad compared to NT people, and I would have to disagree. People are willing to compromise if you look good, and an LTB will put up with your disagreements if you're an MTN, but she would never do the same if you were sub-5. If you dare to drop below average with a mediocre personality and life, you just have to accept that your marriage is over because, after all, she's still going to go for a funny LTN or a boring MTN rather than go with you.

 

[malickism]

The thing is, though, my personality is pretty bad compared to NT people, and I would have to disagree. People are willing to compromise if you look good, and an LTB will put up with your disagreements if you're an MTN, but she would never do the same if you were sub-5. If you dare to drop below average with a mediocre personality and life, you just have to accept that your marriage is over because, after all, she's still going to go for a funny LTN or a boring MTN rather than go with you.

personality is easy to fake, youll learn and we’ll just have to disagree on marriage i think

 

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

in relationships yes, but marriage is different. your partner would have to put up with everything and “till death do us part”, so for him or her to marry you only for your looks you’d have to be htn+.

If you're a solid mid-range MTN to a high-range MTN, she's still mostly attracted to you because of your looks. Sure, she could say she really loves your personality, but that's literally because of the halo effect. If a sub-5 male were to reiterate that, it would be perceived completely differently.

 

[malickism]

If you're a solid mid-range MTN to a high-range MTN, she's still mostly attracted to you because of your looks. Sure, she could say she really loves your personality, but that's literally because of the halo effect. If a sub-5 male were to reiterate that, it would be perceived completely differently.

again to agree to spend the rest of your life with someone is inherently different than relationships, and ofc girls are outrageously hypergamous and artificial but majority that are willing to get married are doing it for looks yes but a lot more does go into the decision. maybe h or hhmtn youre right, but i dont think mid range

 

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

again to agree to spend the rest of your life with someone is inherently different than relationships, and ofc girls are outrageously hypergamous and artificial but majority that are willing to get married are doing it for looks yes but a lot more does go into the decision. maybe h or hhmtn youre right, but i dont think mid range

I understand you, but I think you're missing my point. I'm trying to say that, yes, when picking a partner, women look for a bit more substance than looks, such as personality, but how people perceive your personality is directly contributed to by how you look. So, sure, as a mid-range MTN, you're not going to have every girl going out of her way to try to marry you, but they're going to receive the way you act in a completely different way compared to if you were in the bottom percentile of looks.

 

[malickism]

I understand you, but I think you're missing my point. I'm trying to say that, yes, when picking a partner, women look for a bit more substance than looks, such as personality, but how people perceive your personality is directly contributed to by how you look. So, sure, as a mid-range MTN, you're not going to have every girl going out of her way to try to marry you, but they're going to receive the way you act in a completely different way compared to if you were in the bottom percentile of looks.

just not responding well, i think if u get to man and fake a good personality which is relatively easy youre pretty much set. but youre right

 

[ced]

I don't think I'll ever get married. With how high divorce rates are, I wouldn't even try. Yes, I agree that the problem with 95 percent of marriages is both the wife and husband lose attraction to each other, which causes problems in literally every other area. That's why I think if I could maintain a top physique and face when I get to my older years, I could probably have a happy marriage. But there's a problem with this: because I see everything through a very black-pilled view, I don't think I'll ever be able to love my wife, because I know that they only love me for the way I look, and if I let things slip, they would probably leave for somebody better. I just wouldn't be able to do it. I even stopped speaking to all my IRL friends because I know they wouldn't be my friends, or they would, but they'd disrespect me and treat me like the group punching bag (I know from experience) even if I was just a little more ugly or obese. Hopefully, I can grow out of this way of thinking, because I know it's immature and it's just how the real world works.

i agree on this take
my last hope is i find a beautiful ND european women
who understands my problems
but there is always a chance i will be able to forget abt all this and become a good person

ik it seams unrealistic but when i used to be super into gym culture i thought that was all life was and
"brainwashed" in the same way but i grew out of it and now i think its cringe

i think its possible the same thing happens with this

 

[KenyanMuffinMuncher🧁]

i agree on this take
my last hope is i find a beautiful ND european women
who understands my problems
but there is always a chance i will be able to forget abt all this and become a good person

ik it seams unrealistic but when i used to be super into gym culture i thought that was all life was and
"brainwashed" in the same way but i grew out of it and now i think its cringe

i think its possible the same thing happens with this

Fair, but I don't think growing out of this is a smart decision. Not going on forums or following all the stupid LM culture on TikTok is fine, but not acknowledging it isn't going to stop it from being a reality.

 

[ced]

Fair, but I don't think growing out of this is a smart decision. Not going on forums or following all the stupid LM culture on TikTok is fine, but not acknowledging it isn't going to stop it from being a reality.

trust me being oblivious is better

 

[supertren]

I don't think I'll ever get married. With how high divorce rates are, I wouldn't even try. Yes, I agree that the problem with 95 percent of marriages is both the wife and husband lose attraction to each other, which causes problems in literally every other area. That's why I think if I could maintain a top physique and face when I get to my older years, I could probably have a happy marriage. But there's a problem with this: because I see everything through a very black-pilled view, I don't think I'll ever be able to love my wife, because I know that they only love me for the way I look, and if I let things slip, they would probably leave for somebody better. I just wouldn't be able to do it. I even stopped speaking to all my IRL friends because I know they wouldn't be my friends, or they would, but they'd disrespect me and treat me like the group punching bag (I know from experience) even if I was just a little more ugly or obese. Hopefully, I can grow out of this way of thinking, because I know it's immature and it's just how the real world works.

welcome to the club

 

[malickism]

Fair, but I don't think growing out of this is a smart decision. Not going on forums or following all the stupid LM culture on TikTok is fine, but not acknowledging it isn't going to stop it from being a reality.

its not about not acknowledging it, you cant change your philosophy or beliefs at will unfortunately. but overtime your experiences shift your thinking, and generally people will grow past the black pill and look back on everything and even think it’s dumb. just about your perspective