Discussion Let’s talk about bonesmashing (4 Viewers)

[Dexter]

It works, and it works through the sclerostin and Wnt/β-catenin axis. Subperiosteal hematomas is a retarded theory; you won’t achieve consistent blood pooling, and even if you do it won’t lead to aesthetic results.​

birthdefect vs Tabula Rasa

will be interesting

 

[Tabula Rasa]

birthdefect vs Tabula Rasa

will be interesting

Bone homeostasis significantly limits the magnitude of mechanotransduction changes. Without exogenous growth factors, the effects are generally modest and slow, although maybe significant in a long term.
I'll make a thread about this.​

 

[TheEl1tesWillGoD0wn]

You posted this in the wrong subforum dumbass

He did but its not that big of a deal to insult him lets be real

 

[Dexter]

Bone homeostasis significantly limits the magnitude of mechanotransduction changes. Without exogenous growth factors, the effects are generally modest and slow, although maybe significant in a long term.
I'll make a thread about this.​

looking forward to it

 

[TheEl1tesWillGoD0wn]

Technically lm is for women. Strap on your boots boy there's a war in iran for you

Not even from iran but alr

 

[FoidSlayer]

Not even from iran but alr

I didn't FUCKING say you were FROM there, I'm saying there is a war there and if you're so manly you could enlist. Besides it was a joke

 

[TheEl1tesWillGoD0wn]

I didn't FUCKING say you were FROM there, I'm saying there is a war there and if you're so manly you could enlist. Besides it was a joke

Yh even if i had the balls to fight in iran
I still wouldn’t go because its simply not worth it dying for a country that doesn’t give a shit about u but alr

 

[dior]

Nah doing fillers is just for women

can list about 5 men off the top of my head who ascended DRASTICALLY with filler.

 

[TheEl1tesWillGoD0wn]

can list about 5 men off the top of my head who ascended DRASTICALLY with filler.

Well good for them
Hope their life turns out great

 

[nineteen]

Nah doing fillers is just for women

i guess bro

 

[FoidSlayer]

Yh even if i had the balls to fight in iran
I still wouldn’t go because its simply not worth it dying for a country that doesn’t give a shit about u but alr

Yeah war is retarded

 

[surgerymax]

yes it can work but depends on what you're expecting from it

 

[10incheuropean]

Shut up bitch

Shut the fuck up ugly faggot

 

[FoidSlayer]

Youre nothing but a faggot, how's my dick taste bitch?

Shut the fuck up ugly faggot

 

[birthdefect]

me and surgerymaxx were actually discussing this yesterday, bone smashing works but you only gain scar tissue, not real "bone", and also for it to "work" you would need to take some compound that super charges collagen synthesis, even if it theoretically works, fillers are always more convenient imo.

probably the biggest trvth nvke, although its def bone
maybe my chin skin is thin enough to where i can damage the bone easily, i literally have no meat on it and a completely flat pogonion
after a certain point bonesmashing requires such force and its such a strong negative feedback loop i just cant be bothered to do it
although i will hopefully prove my chin bumps by getting my skull scanned soon

 

[birthdefect]

CTE maxxing

just brace your head brooootal
man i gotta show you niggas my chin, the bumps are way too hard to just be scar tissue
im scared if i get super lean im gonna have a bumpy chin tbh

 

[birthdefect]

It works, and it works through the sclerostin and Wnt/β-catenin axis. Subperiosteal hematomas is a retarded theory; you won’t achieve consistent blood pooling, and even if you do it won’t lead to aesthetic results.​

its light work, do it with a smaller object for smaller areas and profit
the blood pooling isnt random, it only occurs where you hit then expands outwards into a small oblate spheroid shape
elaborate on what you mean by it working through "the sclerostin and Wnt/β-catenin axis"
bone growth occurs from many different growth pathways and downregulators, sost isnt even the only one to manage you gotta inhibit dkk1 for the best results tbh

 

[birthdefect]

Bone homeostasis significantly limits the magnitude of mechanotransduction changes. Without exogenous growth factors, the effects are generally modest and slow, although maybe significant in a long term.
I'll make a thread about this.​

tag me in it as well

 

[Synapzyzz]

probably the biggest trvth nvke, although its def bone
maybe my chin skin is thin enough to where i can damage the bone easily, i literally have no meat on it and a completely flat pogonion
after a certain point bonesmashing requires such force and its such a strong negative feedback loop i just cant be bothered to do it
although i will hopefully prove my chin bumps by getting my skull scanned soon

Most people won’t bother to do proper research and actually understand how can it “theoretically” work, for most people doing a conservative amount of filler it’s the best option, way more convenient for people who are not willing to have to deal with the sides of Winstrol or any other steroids that supercharges collagen synthesis, also learning to DIY fillers is not that hard, orka, dior, veridic and other users have managed to do this without any issues, and the migration risk is low when the supraperiosteal injection is done properly, also HA fillers are relatively cheap, 60$ plus the needles and syringes, the numbing cream and if u fucked yourself the hyaluronidase, ofc fillers are not a long term solution, but you could probably get some good results injecting and after 12 months dissolving and repeating, till you manage to get the money for implants ofc.

 

[birthdefect]

Most people won’t bother to do proper research and actually understand how can it “theoretically” work, for most people doing a conservative amount of filler it’s the best option, way more convenient for people who are not willing to have to deal with the sides of Winstrol or any other steroids that supercharges collagen synthesis, also learning to DIY fillers is not that hard, orka, dior, veridic and other users have managed to do this without any issues, and the migration risk is low when the supraperiosteal injection is done properly, also HA fillers are relatively cheap, 60$ plus the needles and syringes, the numbing cream and if u fucked yourself the hyaluronidase, ofc fillers are not a long term solution, but you could probably get some good results injecting and after 12 months dissolving and repeating, till you manage to get the money for implants ofc.

i didnt need anything to get the growth but i do agree
the bone strengthens, and constantly hitting it is just not a good experience

 

[Synapzyzz]

i didnt need anything to get the growth but i do agree
the bone strengthens, and constantly hitting it is just not a good experience

I mean without taking anything it still works ofc, but for more potent results pharma is needed.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

its light work, do it with a smaller object for smaller areas and profit
the blood pooling isnt random, it only occurs where you hit then expands outwards into a small oblate spheroid shape

1- You cannot prove that your bonesmashing technique produces subperiosteal hematomas, and given that this is a rare condition, it’s naive to assume that a self-inflicted trauma would produce it, much less produce it consistently.
2- Most subperiosteal hematomas do not ossify, and many factors are required for that process to occur.
3- Subperiosteal hematomas, tend to expand; to achieve aesthetic augmentation you would need consistent blood pooling across the entire bone you want to augmentate, which you are not going to achieve, let alone trigger a process of ossification.
In other words, it's playing with small possibilities within other small possibilities, within infinitesimal possibilities. A doll of impossibility, which makes its consistency impossible.

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elaborate on what you mean by it working through "the sclerostin and Wnt/β-catenin axis"
bone growth occurs from many different growth pathways and downregulators, sost isnt even the only one to manage you gotta inhibit dkk1 for the best results tbh

I did not say that it is the only mechanism of bone growth, but rather the one by which mechanotransduction works.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5987014/​

Sclerostin, an emerging therapeutic target for treating osteoporosis and osteoporotic fracture: A general review
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Sclerostin inhibits bone formation through inhibiting the Wnt/β-catenin signalling​

Ref: https://www.jbc.org/article/S0021-9258(20)57305-5/fulltext

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The expression of sclerostin is upregulated in tibia in a hindlimb unloading model (tail suspension) in mice and downregulated in ulna in loading model in both rat and mice​

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Ref: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18089564/





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TL;dnr:
Sclerostin is a regulator of this mechanism, inhibiting Wnt/β-catenin to prevent bone growth. This also suppresses osteoblastogenesis, the process by which mesenchymal stem cellsare committed toward osteoblasts, essential bone building cells.

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[Kramatorsk1131]

cope only good for a quick pump

who do u think u are using my pfp buddy

 

[Kramatorsk1131]

0/10 cope, while Orka Veridic and dior are ascending you are coping like an absolute retard about "muh fillers for women".

keep glazing ur bfs

 

[Kramatorsk1131]

bonesmashing works but you need to use another mans penis to hit your bones, otherwise it wont work, dont ask me why tho