Theory Mechanotransductio, bonesmashing full science breakdown and theories (1 Viewer)

[syna]

2mg ghk-cu eod and wrap it up

PCT is brutal tho

 

[Tabula Rasa]

we all know its raw milk and ghkcu

It's GHRP-6

 

[Orka]

That's why Orka had to dissolve his chin filler in less than a month.

What are you talking about? I said my results faded a bit, just added more of a different kind of filler and it worked fine.

I haven't dissolved it, I don't know where you got that info from. Do not lie on my name

Circa's point still stands, its not a complicated procedure

Well, it quite literally is. Multiple people on this forum alone have attempted & succeeded in DIY filler.

And it's not even the fillers fault, I stopped Injecting when I was happy with the results, and the fading was just the swelling going down.

Filler is 33$/1.1ml ffs, just do that instead of constantly debating on this topic for the last 6 years, or hit your face for a few years, and if you get results congrats. Filler is cheap & it's a guarantee.

inb4 muh migration

 

[Orka]

What are you talking about? I said my results faded a bit, just added more of a different kind of filler and it worked fine.

I haven't dissolved it, I don't know where you got that info from. Do not lie on my name

Circa's point still stands, its not a complicated procedure


And it's not even the fillers fault, I stopped Injecting when I was happy with the results, and the fading was just the swelling going down.

Filler is 33$/1.1ml ffs, just do that instead of constantly debating on this topic for the last 6 years, or hit your face for a few years, and if you get results congrats. Filler is cheap & it's a guarantee.

inb4 muh migration

update:

I forgot to update the thread, I take back my point about you getting the info out of nowhere and apologize.

I did not end up dissolving it.

 

[Circadex]

What are you talking about? I said my results faded a bit, just added more of a different kind of filler and it worked fine.

I haven't dissolved it, I don't know where you got that info from. Do not lie on my name

Circa's point still stands, its not a complicated procedure


And it's not even the fillers fault, I stopped Injecting when I was happy with the results, and the fading was just the swelling going down.

Filler is 33$/1.1ml ffs, just do that instead of constantly debating on this topic for the last 6 years, or hit your face for a few years, and if you get results congrats. Filler is cheap & it's a guarantee.

inb4 muh migration

Don't even waste your time, OP is incapable of processing any statements in an argument

 

[Godveil Heir]

surgerymaxx re-incarnate
what a retard

 

[Circadex]

surgerymaxx re-incarnate
what a retard

It's so brutal. This is guy was genuinely trying to argue studys don't use precise methods, for a defence to his argument...

 

[syna]

It's so brutal. This is guy was genuinely trying to argue studys don't use precise methods, for a defence to his argument...

Most useless method still debated in 2026, it’s crazy the amount of effort put into this.

 

[Circadex]

Most useless method still debated in 2026, it’s crazy the amount of effort put into this.

True

i don't even know why these idiots bother looking for new loopholes for muh bone growth. You cannot control, negate injury, and ensure results with "Bonesmashing". It's ridiculous; people would rather get CTE & become even more of a vegetable via smashing their head with blunt objects rather than just DIY filler or get surgery. Lazy cattle

 

[syna]

True

i don't even know why these idiots bother looking for new loopholes for muh bone growth. You cannot control, negate injury, and ensure results with "Bonesmashing". It's ridiculous; people would rather get CTE & become even more of a vegetable via smashing their head with blunt objects rather than just DIY filler or get surgery. Lazy cattle

Worst of all is he “discovered” and formulated a theory that works, props to OP for his nice investigation, still, yet a useless mechanism that is a waste of time, even if on paper it makes sense the difference that it will make is minuscule af structure wise, and also we don’t have any evidence even anecdotally of the amount of “growth” you would be getting, lots of people here have tried it and it worked for none of them, aryan incel tried for 2 years and according to him “I bonesmahed for 2 years and saw no diff” which is funny cause I have friends and people who did the same and tried many diff ways for the sake of “science”, their conclusion was that it made zero difference or that it was minuscule, it’s just cope atp just to avoid getting fillers or implants and just looking for the hardest way to achieve things ngl.

 

[syna]

True

i don't even know why these idiots bother looking for new loopholes for muh bone growth. You cannot control, negate injury, and ensure results with "Bonesmashing". It's ridiculous; people would rather get CTE & become even more of a vegetable via smashing their head with blunt objects rather than just DIY filler or get surgery. Lazy cattle

also not to mention that anecdaotal evidence would still be flawed without an RCT because all the brutal biases coming with this, and also because if teens do this and see any “difference” they might attribute the bone growth to bonesmashing instead of what is causing it which is puberty as a natural occurring process.

 

[syna]

Worst of all is he “discovered” and formulated a theory that works for, yet a useless mechanism that is a waste of time, even if on paper it makes sense difference that it will make is minuscule af structure wise, and also we don’t have any evidence even anecdotally of the amount of “growth” you would be getting, lots of people here have tried it and it worked for none of them, aryan incel tried for 2 years and according to him “I bonesmahed for 2 years and saw no diff” which is funny cause I have friends and people who did the same and tried many diff ways for the sake of “science”, their conclusion was that it made zero difference or that it was minuscule, it’s just cope atp just to avoid getting fillers and implants and just looking for the hardest way to achieve things ngl.

people seem to forget practicality and convenience are things to consider, the "easiest way to achieve the results desired", keep it simple. Circadex

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Don't even waste your time, OP is incapable of processing any statements in an argument

It's so brutal. This is guy was genuinely trying to argue studys don't use precise methods, for a defence to his argument...

End it.

Most useless method still debated in 2026, it’s crazy the amount of effort put into this.

Prove is useless.

True

i don't even know why these idiots bother looking for new loopholes for muh bone growth. You cannot control, negate injury, and ensure results with "Bonesmashing". It's ridiculous; people would rather get CTE & become even more of a vegetable via smashing their head with blunt objects rather than just DIY filler or get surgery. Lazy cattle

I'm already planing surgery, fag.

Worst of all is he “discovered” and formulated a theory that works, props to OP for his nice investigation, still, yet a useless mechanism that is a waste of time, even if on paper it makes sense the difference that it will make is minuscule af structure wise, and also we don’t have any evidence even anecdotally of the amount of “growth” you would be getting, lots of people here have tried it and it worked for none of them, aryan incel tried for 2 years and according to him “I bonesmahed for 2 years and saw no diff” which is funny cause I have friends and people who did the same and tried many diff ways for the sake of “science”, their conclusion was that it made zero difference or that it was minuscule, it’s just cope atp just to avoid getting fillers or implants and just looking for the hardest way to achieve things ngl.

Brutal iq descension saying bonesmashing is in the same category as filler and IMPLANTS is beyond retard.

 

[syna]

End it.

Prove is useless.

I'm already planing surgery, fag.

Brutal iq descension saying bonesmashing is in the same category as filler and IMPLANTS is beyond retard.

No one said it’s in the same category.

 

[syna]

End it.

Prove is useless.

I'm already planing surgery, fag.

Brutal iq descension saying bonesmashing is in the same category as filler and IMPLANTS is beyond retard.

Ask anyone if bonesmashing has worked for them? even anecdotallly it’s weak af, you are gonna also find a shit ton of mixed opinions about it, all the people ik who tried it out say it didn’t do shit, but I guess you will always find someone who claims it worked for them, the issue is that without an RCT you can never know, look you did prove it has a legit mechanism behind it and went past the subperiosteal hematoma retardation, but I still think it’s not practical at all.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

No one said it’s in the same category.

Yes, you had and ofc i'm bonesmashing to not get implants in my lunch break.

Ask anyone if bonesmashing has worked for them? even anecdotallly it’s weak af, you are gonna also find a shit ton of mixed opinions about it, all the people ik who tried it out say it didn’t do shit, but I guess you will always find someone who claims it worked for them, the issue is that without an RCT you can never know, look you did prove it has a legit mechanism behind it and went past the subperiosteal hematoma retardation, but I still think it’s not practical at all.

This seems like brutal cope to me. You don't know if those guys even get a soft tissue massage with their tecnique, that's why, anecdotical reports from this shit forums are not to be taking seriously.

 

[syna]

Well u said it yourself, anyways you are always welcome to prove all of us wrong and show us the 0.01 picometers you got from bonesmashing.

Yes, you had and ofc i'm bonesmashing to not get implants in my lunch break.

This seems like brutal cope to me. You don't know if those guys even get a soft tissue massage with their tecnique, that's why, anecdotical reports from this shit forums are not to be taking seriously.

I never said “implants and fillers are on the same category as boneshamsing” but I guess bro.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Well u said it yourself, anyways you are always welcome to prove all of us wrong and show us the 0.01 picometers you got from bonesmashing.

I never said “implants and fillers are on the same category as boneshamsing” but I guess bro.

I will since you are all retarded goys

 

[syna]

Iwill since you are all retarded goys

i guess bro

 

[Empire247]

I honestly think bone smashing is just scar tissue

 

[surgerymax]

surgerymaxx re-incarnate
what a retard

what are u talking abt jfl
i never said this worked

 

[syna]

what are u talking abt jfl
i never said this worked

bhai are u gonna make the thread explaining the scar tissue mechanism?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

agreed on jonas' thread, utter dogshit
doesnt even say a word
will read thread tmr

I'm taking this opportunity to bump the threadn and ask you what did you think?

 

[birthdefect]

I'm taking this opportunity to bump the threadn and ask you what did you think?

fuaarrrkkkk i forgot to read it, i will read this rn

 

[Tabula Rasa]

fuaarrrkkkk i forgot to read it, i will read this rn

Thread is not that good to read it 3 hours bro

 

[Perfectionist]

I didn’t even read I just stared at the head titles

Me too, was too distracted by the nice colours

 

[birthdefect]

Thread is not that good to read it 3 hours bro

yea i went to bed jfl, i did read it tho
does mechanotransduction really allow for physical localised growth? i still dont understand why you think hematoma ossification is improbable

 

[birthdefect]

yea i went to bed jfl, i did read it tho
does mechanotransduction really allow for physical localised growth? i still dont understand why you think hematoma ossification is improbable

just realised that these 2 theories aren't mutually exclusive at all
bone bruise occurs, body uses mechanotransduction and local up/downregulation of certain factors to convert that to bone
namely pge2 and SOST

 

[Tabula Rasa]

yea i went to bed jfl, i did read it tho
does mechanotransduction really allow for physical localised growth?

Yes, if you understand the process of mechanotransduction and the anatomy, that's why reading studies is not enough to have actual knowledge in a topic, you need to understand anatomical processes within the body. Osteocytes are the sensors that detect mechanical loads in bone. If the osteocytes in your zygomatic bone, for example, receive a mechanical load, they will respond through several cascading processes, such as those I already detailed in the thread: degradation of sclerostin and activation of the WNT pathway.

One of the primary ways that bone cells perceive changes in their physical/mechanical environment is through fluid movement along their substrate/surface, and within the canaliculi/lacunar canalicular system (LCS) of the extracellular matrix (ECM). This allows for interstitial fluid flow shear stress (FFSS) to be generated which can change in magnitude in response to changes in the local micro-anatomy and topography [14]. This is a mechanism which gives rise to constantly changing shear stresses along the surfaces (targeting osteoblasts/lining cells), and throughout the LCS (targeting osteocytes)—making it an important mechanical stimulus in relation to osteoblast differentiation and activity.

i still dont understand why you think hematoma ossification is improbable

It's not a technique that can be applied in a theoretically consistent way. Creating subperiosteal hematomas is complicated, and getting them to ossify instead of being reabsorbed is also complicated. If you read Saif's thread, the guy who brought this theory to the community, he mentions studies on bone hypertrophy in the humerus of rodeo riders without equipment. Their humerus hypertrophied precisely in the area where it rested on the hip. To think that this trauma can cause subperiosteal hematomas is quite stupid, and that case aligns better with my theory.

 

[Tabula Rasa]

Well put out thread with real scientific backing. However the thing is we can’t be sure the difference of bone mass it will actually make. Will it be significant or will it be negligible? I’m more in the side of negligible personally as Ive tried it out for a year or two and after the swelling went down I saw no difference bone structure wise personally

It's not about the magnitude of the results; mechanotransduction is a limitless process that changes bone homeostasis. It's about whether you are actually providing a stimulus that activates this process and how long it will take to produce a noticeable result.

 

[birthdefect]

Yes, if you understand the process of mechanotransduction and the anatomy, that's why reading studies is not enough to have actual knowledge in a topic, you need to understand anatomical processes within the body. Osteocytes are the sensors that detect mechanical loads in bone. If the osteocytes in your zygomatic bone, for example, receive a mechanical load, they will respond through several cascading processes, such as those I already detailed in the thread: degradation of sclerostin and activation of the WNT pathway.


It's not a technique that can be applied in a theoretically consistent way. Creating subperiosteal hematomas is complicated, and getting them to ossify instead of being reabsorbed is also complicated. If you read Saif's thread, the guy who brought this theory to the community, he mentions studies on bone hypertrophy in the humerus of rodeo riders without equipment. Their humerus hypertrophied precisely in the area where it rested on the hip. To think that this trauma can cause subperiosteal hematomas is quite stupid, and that case aligns better with my theory.

just realised that these 2 theories aren't mutually exclusive at all
bone bruise occurs, body uses mechanotransduction and local up/downregulation of certain factors to convert that to bone
namely pge2 and SOST

?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

?

They are not

 

[birthdefect]

They are not

they arent mutually exclusive?
one leads to the other doesnt it?

 

[Tabula Rasa]

they arent mutually exclusive?

No they're not both process are well documented.

one leads to the other doesnt it?

No, they work differently.