OP My Facial Ascension Plan (advice needed) (1 Viewer)

[Fram3Let]

This thread purely includes my facial ascension plan. First I'm gonna hop one cycle of androgens and see if it can help me(my stack is in my previous thread if anyone is wondering). I know androgens cant fix recession but I want to take them to get a little bit better of a brow ridge and a wider base before surgery. I also am getting checked for sleep apnea, which I probably do, in 5 days.

These are my facial stats(refined by chatgpt):

Recessed Maxilla (upper jaw/midface flat):

• Side profile: Flat under-eyes, no forward cheek projection, nose dominates (positive nasal projection but midface behind).
• Front: Narrow midface, flat cheeks — lacks width/forward growth.
• Severity: Moderate — not severe, but limits harmony.

Recessed Mandible (lower jaw/chin weak):

• Side: Weak chin (retrognathic), steep mandibular plane, short ramus — jaw sits back.
• Front: Narrow gonial angles, soft jawline (no square width).
• Severity: Moderate — chin recessed, but good potential with DHT/fat loss.

Recessed Infraorbitals (under-eye support lacking):

• Side/Front: Flat infraorbital rim — negative orbital vector (eyes slightly "bulging" relative to rim), hollowing potential if BF drops more.
• Severity: Mild–moderate — hooded eyes help, but rim recession adds tired look.

Face might be a little distorted

Here are all the surgeries ill get to fix it (refined by gpt):

Surgery Plan (target age 17–18, after height plateau + apnea confirmation):

• Primary: Double Jaw Surgery (DJS/bimaxillary advancement) — forward maxilla/mandible for projection + airway (apnea cure).
• Implants (custom titanium/PEEK):
  • Zygomatic (cheek) implants — wider/high cheekbones.
  • Infraorbital rim implants — better under-eye support/projection.
  • Chin implant — stronger forward chin.
  • Jaw angle implants — wider gonial angles (square jaw width).

Im planning to get the DJS then get invisalign and one year later get all my implants done. Might get a rhino too but I don't think my nose it that bad. Any advice is wanted.

Current Height Base (3 months in):

• HGH 8 IU/day split
• PTH 60 mcg/night
• Aromasin 6.25 mg EOD

Upcoming 6-Week Recomp Cycle (previous thread — for gains + face sharpening pre-surgery):

• Test Prop 300 mg/week
• Mast E 150 mg/week
• Anavar 50 mg/day
• Proviron 75 mg/day
• Base continued

Stats:

• Age: 16 ⅔
• Height: 6'0.5" (+0.75" in 3 months on height base)
• Weight: 163 lbs
• BF: ~12–13% (8 months training from 135 lbs)

 

[FS51]

This thread purely includes my facial ascension plan. First I'm gonna hop one cycle of androgens and see if it can help me(my stack is in my previous thread if anyone is wondering). I know androgens cant fix recession but I want to take them to get a little bit better of a brow ridge and a wider base before surgery. I also am getting checked for sleep apnea, which I probably do, in 5 days.

These are my facial stats(refined by chatgpt):

Recessed Maxilla (upper jaw/midface flat):

• Side profile: Flat under-eyes, no forward cheek projection, nose dominates (positive nasal projection but midface behind).
• Front: Narrow midface, flat cheeks — lacks width/forward growth.
• Severity: Moderate — not severe, but limits harmony.

Recessed Mandible (lower jaw/chin weak):

• Side: Weak chin (retrognathic), steep mandibular plane, short ramus — jaw sits back.
• Front: Narrow gonial angles, soft jawline (no square width).
• Severity: Moderate — chin recessed, but good potential with DHT/fat loss.

Recessed Infraorbitals (under-eye support lacking):

• Side/Front: Flat infraorbital rim — negative orbital vector (eyes slightly "bulging" relative to rim), hollowing potential if BF drops more.
• Severity: Mild–moderate — hooded eyes help, but rim recession adds tired look.

View attachment 24014View attachment 24015

Face might be a little distorted

Here are all the surgeries ill get to fix it (refined by gpt):

Surgery Plan (target age 17–18, after height plateau + apnea confirmation):

• Primary: Double Jaw Surgery (DJS/bimaxillary advancement) — forward maxilla/mandible for projection + airway (apnea cure).
• Implants (custom titanium/PEEK):
  • Zygomatic (cheek) implants — wider/high cheekbones.
  • Infraorbital rim implants — better under-eye support/projection.
  • Chin implant — stronger forward chin.
  • Jaw angle implants — wider gonial angles (square jaw width).

Im planning to get the DJS then get invisalign and one year later get all my implants done. Might get a rhino too but I don't think my nose it that bad. Any advice is wanted.

Current Height Base (3 months in):

• HGH 8 IU/day split
• PTH 60 mcg/night
• Aromasin 6.25 mg EOD

Upcoming 6-Week Recomp Cycle (previous thread — for gains + face sharpening pre-surgery):

• Test Prop 300 mg/week
• Mast E 150 mg/week
• Anavar 50 mg/day
• Proviron 75 mg/day
• Base continued

Stats:

• Age: 16 ⅔
• Height: 6'0.5" (+0.75" in 3 months on height base)
• Weight: 163 lbs
• BF: ~12–13% (8 months training from 135 lbs)

i promise you arent doing any of these surgeries

 

[Fram3Let]

i promise you arent doing any of these surgeries

I literally have the money and also have sleep apnea and I'm going to get tested for it in 5 days.

 

[hideandseek]

good luck

 

[Fram3Let]

good luck

Thank you

 

[FS51]

I literally have the money and also have sleep apnea and I'm going to get tested for it in 5 days.

if you are serious about this, i wish you the best of luck tho

 

[Fram3Let]

if you are serious about this, i wish you the best of luck tho

Yes I am, might take a couple months to get all the surgeries planed out fully but will show results later

 

[Fram3Let]

BUMP. Actually need some decent advice on this

 

[nineteen]

This thread purely includes my facial ascension plan. First I'm gonna hop one cycle of androgens and see if it can help me(my stack is in my previous thread if anyone is wondering). I know androgens cant fix recession but I want to take them to get a little bit better of a brow ridge and a wider base before surgery. I also am getting checked for sleep apnea, which I probably do, in 5 days.

These are my facial stats(refined by chatgpt):

Recessed Maxilla (upper jaw/midface flat):

• Side profile: Flat under-eyes, no forward cheek projection, nose dominates (positive nasal projection but midface behind).
• Front: Narrow midface, flat cheeks — lacks width/forward growth.
• Severity: Moderate — not severe, but limits harmony.

Recessed Mandible (lower jaw/chin weak):

• Side: Weak chin (retrognathic), steep mandibular plane, short ramus — jaw sits back.
• Front: Narrow gonial angles, soft jawline (no square width).
• Severity: Moderate — chin recessed, but good potential with DHT/fat loss.

Recessed Infraorbitals (under-eye support lacking):

• Side/Front: Flat infraorbital rim — negative orbital vector (eyes slightly "bulging" relative to rim), hollowing potential if BF drops more.
• Severity: Mild–moderate — hooded eyes help, but rim recession adds tired look.

View attachment 24014View attachment 24015

Face might be a little distorted

Here are all the surgeries ill get to fix it (refined by gpt):

Surgery Plan (target age 17–18, after height plateau + apnea confirmation):

• Primary: Double Jaw Surgery (DJS/bimaxillary advancement) — forward maxilla/mandible for projection + airway (apnea cure).
• Implants (custom titanium/PEEK):
  • Zygomatic (cheek) implants — wider/high cheekbones.
  • Infraorbital rim implants — better under-eye support/projection.
  • Chin implant — stronger forward chin.
  • Jaw angle implants — wider gonial angles (square jaw width).

Im planning to get the DJS then get invisalign and one year later get all my implants done. Might get a rhino too but I don't think my nose it that bad. Any advice is wanted.

Current Height Base (3 months in):

• HGH 8 IU/day split
• PTH 60 mcg/night
• Aromasin 6.25 mg EOD

Upcoming 6-Week Recomp Cycle (previous thread — for gains + face sharpening pre-surgery):

• Test Prop 300 mg/week
• Mast E 150 mg/week
• Anavar 50 mg/day
• Proviron 75 mg/day
• Base continued

Stats:

• Age: 16 ⅔
• Height: 6'0.5" (+0.75" in 3 months on height base)
• Weight: 163 lbs
• BF: ~12–13% (8 months training from 135 lbs)

i respect the effort bro good luck on your journey