[Svuch]

For context im 14 born in april 180cm tall and still growning, 58kg and Norwegian.
(Ill leave a picture at the end)

Health factors:
my thyroid might be little okay I can be outside in a shirt but I gets a little cold if I consistently trow snowballs at people and if it goes below 5-10 degrees (Celcius)

I eat what the media calls “good food” but it’s actually better than the majority in Norway. (No seedoils, boycotting bovaer, real butter etc)

Grew 1 centimeter last month, I am still like 3 shades tan from summer, but I got some acne, but it has improved with smal diet changes. I do have blackheads. Now let’s look at the plan so far:


Firstly I want to optimize heigth, my mom is 177 and my dad is 180, but both my moms grandparents (likely ate good food and nutrition) where upwards 2 meters tall. My plan is to eat oats with low pasteurised whole milk for breakfast, 3 eggs for lunch, and stop eating late night snack. I’ll also start running max effort on treadmill.

Now it’s my skin, as the eldest son it’s most likely the poison/junkfood I inherited from my mom. But there are several solutions 1. Detox and stop eating soy slop and artificial sweeteners 2. Train it away with cardio 3 accurate and dht blockers. I don’t know what I should do or if I need anything extra or sum

Eyebrows; my eyebrows are over average shape but lacks density. Is castor oil enough or do I need minoxidil? I’m dyeing them black with a marker wich looks unfrauded as my dirty blond hair is darkening to brunette after tannmaxxing all summer. Honorable mention: should I use dht blocker for this to and if so natural? Or am I too young to see benefits?

Hair: I need to grow it out again and style it more. I use fiber clay/pomade stuff wich works but I think texture powder works better? Do I need to use based or is it okay for skin?

Philtrum: fuck my philtrum I would do anything to make it smaller

Overbite: I have an overbite, and yeah chewing tough foods more forward could work, but my 4-6 top frontal teeth go to long down to slide my under teeth forward and I have to move my mandible a little down to get my lower teeth over them (any fix I hate my bad side profile)

Eyecolor: I have green eyes but they appearance dark/ gray in normal lighting (I’ll link this to the poison covering my eyes reflecting light darker) could also be my Temu hunter eyes giving shade

Zygomatic: there is nothing special about my zygos, I’m thinking about bonesmashing but I don’t want an asymmetrical face.

Ramus it’s got an alright angle but not good enough length is like 60-80% of what might be good. I do not know how to make it better, any tips?

jawline: it’s average I think but my overbite makes it worse. I don’t know what works or what but thumb pulling, chin tucks against wall and laying, starvemaxxing, eating tough foods ( teeth problem with overbite though)

Eyes: I’m not sure how ideal the ratio between them are but should I cut cantus?

Jaw width: I have no idea, the only valid black looksmaxxer Jon starke or sum talked about “restraing” or something idk

Ears: they might be outsticking

Abs: doing daily training in my room including push ups, sit ups, burpees, etc (I got no clue)

Facial harmony: I dont know bro

Anything else that’s majorly wrong with my face I should focus on?
Anything else you need to know about me?

 

[Jaeger]

Philtrum isnt that bad tbh atleast for ur age development looks like a good plan i wish you good luck hmu for questions regarding development foods and i also wouldnt recommend oats

 

[DYd]

Should get fat grafting under the eyes

 

[sjzso]

Philtrum isnt that bad tbh

 

[inhibitioncel]

my thyroid might be little okay I can be outside in a shirt but I gets a little cold if I consistently trow snowballs at people and if it goes below 5-10 degrees (Celcius)

get your thyroid as high as possible bro!

 

[inhibitioncel]

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C:P doesnt mean shit about philtrum size.
you could have ideal C:P and still have a subpar philtrum length

edit: i replied to the wrong guy, thought bro said his philtrum wasnt that bad and showed his C:P

 

[inhibitioncel]

Philtrum isnt that bad

philtrum length and shape is subpar

 

[Svuch]

Philtrum isnt that bad tbh atleast for ur age development looks like a good plan i wish you good luck hmu for questions regarding development foods and i also wouldnt recommend oats

Yeah please tell me some development foods but whats wrong with oats? Yeah i know it might be a little soy slop but its what made my viking ancestors tall. So yeah it might not be perfect but its easy and fast and gives me more time to sleep in the morning to sleepmax i need like 10-9 hours of sleep to maximice.

 

[Svuch]

Should get fat grafting under the eyes

Yeah sure it’s just that I’m 14 and cant legally do it or afford

 

[Svuch]

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And whats ideal?

 

[Svuch]

get your thyroid as high as possible bro!

And how? Chin tucks or…?

 

[inhibitioncel]

And how? Chin tucks or…?

jfl no. But do chin tucks i guess.

you dont want your thyroid levels be to high otherwise you'd accelerate epiphyseal closure

 

[EritreansMog]

For context im 14 born in april 180cm tall and still growning, 58kg and Norwegian.
(Ill leave a picture at the end)

Health factors:
my thyroid might be little okay I can be outside in a shirt but I gets a little cold if I consistently trow snowballs at people and if it goes below 5-10 degrees (Celcius)

I eat what the media calls “good food” but it’s actually better than the majority in Norway. (No seedoils, boycotting bovaer, real butter etc)

Grew 1 centimeter last month, I am still like 3 shades tan from summer, but I got some acne, but it has improved with smal diet changes. I do have blackheads. Now let’s look at the plan so far:


Firstly I want to optimize heigth, my mom is 177 and my dad is 180, but both my moms grandparents (likely ate good food and nutrition) where upwards 2 meters tall. My plan is to eat oats with low pasteurised whole milk for breakfast, 3 eggs for lunch, and stop eating late night snack. I’ll also start running max effort on treadmill.

Now it’s my skin, as the eldest son it’s most likely the poison/junkfood I inherited from my mom. But there are several solutions 1. Detox and stop eating soy slop and artificial sweeteners 2. Train it away with cardio 3 accurate and dht blockers. I don’t know what I should do or if I need anything extra or sum

Eyebrows; my eyebrows are over average shape but lacks density. Is castor oil enough or do I need minoxidil? I’m dyeing them black with a marker wich looks unfrauded as my dirty blond hair is darkening to brunette after tannmaxxing all summer. Honorable mention: should I use dht blocker for this to and if so natural? Or am I too young to see benefits?

Hair: I need to grow it out again and style it more. I use fiber clay/pomade stuff wich works but I think texture powder works better? Do I need to use based or is it okay for skin?

Philtrum: fuck my philtrum I would do anything to make it smaller

Overbite: I have an overbite, and yeah chewing tough foods more forward could work, but my 4-6 top frontal teeth go to long down to slide my under teeth forward and I have to move my mandible a little down to get my lower teeth over them (any fix I hate my bad side profile)

Eyecolor: I have green eyes but they appearance dark/ gray in normal lighting (I’ll link this to the poison covering my eyes reflecting light darker) could also be my Temu hunter eyes giving shade

Zygomatic: there is nothing special about my zygos, I’m thinking about bonesmashing but I don’t want an asymmetrical face.

Ramus it’s got an alright angle but not good enough length is like 60-80% of what might be good. I do not know how to make it better, any tips?

jawline: it’s average I think but my overbite makes it worse. I don’t know what works or what but thumb pulling, chin tucks against wall and laying, starvemaxxing, eating tough foods ( teeth problem with overbite though)

Eyes: I’m not sure how ideal the ratio between them are but should I cut cantus?

Jaw width: I have no idea, the only valid black looksmaxxer Jon starke or sum talked about “restraing” or something idk

Ears: they might be outsticking

Abs: doing daily training in my room including push ups, sit ups, burpees, etc (I got no clue)

Facial harmony: I dont know bro

Anything else that’s majorly wrong with my face I should focus on?
Anything else you need to know about me?

Flaws (real ones that are holding you back hard right now)
• Severe facial redness / inflammation (biggest SMV killer)
• Protruding ears (noticeable in every photo)
• Mild overbite + slightly recessed lower jaw
• Nose tip a bit bulbous + mild nostril show
• Very low eye/hair contrast (light brows, light lashes, light hair)

Fixes (priority order)

1. Skin (do this literally today – biggest halo you’ll ever get)
→ Tretinoin 0.025% cream (start slow, 2–3 nights/week)
→ Azelaic acid 15–20% (morning)
→ Niacinamide 10% serum
→ Gentle cleanser + thick moisturizer + mineral sunscreen daily
(Drop collagen powder – it does nothing for redness)

2. Eye/hair contrast (instant +0.5–0.7 boost, zero downtime)
→ Dye eyebrows 1–2 shades darker (just for men dye or get it done)
→ Bimatoprost/Latisse drops for lashes (3–6 months = mascara effect)
→ Dye hair dark ash-blond or medium brown (black might be too harsh with light eyes)

3. Ears
→ Otoplasty (pin them back) – one of the highest-ROI surgeries you can do at 16–17

4. Jaw / overbite
→ See an orthodontist + maxfac surgeon for evaluation
→ Likely candidate for double jaw surgery (bimax) or at least sliding genio once growth is done
→ Headgear at this age won’t move bone – don’t waste time

5. Nose (do last, combine with jaw surgery if possible)
→ Rhinoplasty: tip refinement + very slight alar base reduction

 

[EritreansMog]

C:P doesnt mean shit about philtrum size.
you could have ideal C:P and still have a subpar philtrum length

edit: i replied to the wrong guy, thought bro said his philtrum wasnt that bad and showed his C:P

C what?

 

[inhibitioncel]

C what?

C:P refers to chin to phitrum ratio

 

[Svuch]

Flaws (real ones that are holding you back hard right now)
• Severe facial redness / inflammation (biggest SMV killer)
• Protruding ears (noticeable in every photo)
• Mild overbite + slightly recessed lower jaw
• Nose tip a bit bulbous + mild nostril show
• Very low eye/hair contrast (light brows, light lashes, light hair)

Fixes (priority order)

1. Skin (do this literally today – biggest halo you’ll ever get)
→ Tretinoin 0.025% cream (start slow, 2–3 nights/week)
→ Azelaic acid 15–20% (morning)
→ Niacinamide 10% serum
→ Gentle cleanser + thick moisturizer + mineral sunscreen daily
(Drop collagen powder – it does nothing for redness)

2. Eye/hair contrast (instant +0.5–0.7 boost, zero downtime)
→ Dye eyebrows 1–2 shades darker (just for men dye or get it done)
→ Bimatoprost/Latisse drops for lashes (3–6 months = mascara effect)
→ Dye hair dark ash-blond or medium brown (black might be too harsh with light eyes)

3. Ears
→ Otoplasty (pin them back) – one of the highest-ROI surgeries you can do at 16–17

4. Jaw / overbite
→ See an orthodontist + maxfac surgeon for evaluation
→ Likely candidate for double jaw surgery (bimax) or at least sliding genio once growth is done
→ Headgear at this age won’t move bone – don’t waste time

5. Nose (do last, combine with jaw surgery if possible)
→ Rhinoplasty: tip refinement + very slight alar base reduction

Thank you my bro, I’ll see what i can buy for my skin first. I got some cash ~ like 2000 kr / 200 dollar cause i don’t want my parents thinking I am an insecure looser or sum

 

[Svuch]

jfl no. But do chin tucks i guess.

you dont want your thyroid levels be to high otherwise you'd accelerate epiphyseal closure

Yeah sure