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nigga its still on the front page you don't have to do so many bumps
mirin mirin mirin, good thread bhai, high iq, bookmarked bookmarked, will read later, DNR, read this just now good thread mirin bhai boyoSleeping Guide (Gymcel Pt.3)
Sleep is important for height and development. Most of this is water but havent seen a lot of people add everything together. Even if you're not in development its still important for muscle recovery and optimal function.
Core Rules for Perfect Sleep Environment:
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- Dark room no light: Zero light kills melatonin/GH — phone/TV off, no LEDs, blackout curtains/blinds to block daylight (essential for catch-up sleep/naps).
- Sleeping mask: Extra block any leaks — light through eyelids disrupts pulses.
- Cool room: 60–67°F (18–19°C) — body temp drop signals sleep.
- Quiet/no noise: Earplugs or white noise machine (fan) — distractions kill deep stages.
Circadian Hacks (Morning + Evening Light Optimization):
Sleep Position Optimization:
- Wake up and look at sun: First 10–30 min morning sunlight (direct view or outside) — sets circadian rhythm, boosts serotonin/melatonin later (GH pulses stronger).
- Sunset viewing: Evening natural light (orange/red spectrum) — signals wind-down, melatonin rise.
- Red light glasses: Evening (after sunset) — block blue light from screens/lamps (red/orange tint glasses ~$10–$20) — preserves melatonin (no blue light cope 1h pre-bed).
- Sleep on back: Optimal (spine alignment, no face/jaw pressure — apnea reduction, better breathing/recovery). Back best for GH release + no wrinkles.
- Side OK sometimes (I do) — but back priority (pillow between knees if side).
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Routine & Habits for Consistent 8–10h:
- Bed same time: Circadian lock — e.g., 10 PM–7 AM.
- No screens 1–2h pre: Blue light cope — read book or journal.
- No food 2–3h pre: Insulin low = GH high (milk OK small if tryptophan needed).
- Wind-down: Dim lights, stretch/meditate 30 min pre-bed.
- Catch-up sleep: Blackout blinds + mask for daytime naps (GH pulses if deep).
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Pharma Optimization (GH Pulse Boost — Recovery Elite):
GH secretagogues (cjc/ipa) ikik cope but works for sleep: 300mcg-500mcg 1x a day if using gh (pre-bed dose key) — mimics youth pulses overnight (height plates + recovery without direct HGH sides).
- Why optimized: Steady IGF-1 for gains/velocity.
- Don't use MK-677 — prediabetes/insulin crash risk (bloat + resistance kills shreds).
- Direct HGH (if on base): 6–8 IU/day split — evening dose for nocturnal pulse max.
- Melatonin (3–5 mg pre-bed): If trouble falling asleep — fast onset, deeper stages (GH boost + circadian reset).
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Sedatives (When You have to force yourself to go to sleep)
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- Minimal dose tranquilizers (use very infrequently - a maximum of 1-2 times a week)
- Trazodone (25-50 mg before bedtime) - highly popular off-label sleeping drug in the gym. Good tranquilizer, enhances deep sleep, light hangover.
- Hydroxyzine (2550mg) - antihistamine tranquilizer, alleviates anxiety, works well with racing thoughts on cycle.
- Zolpidem (Ambien) (5 10 mg) -hypnotic of short acting, rapid onset, rarely used (rebound insomnia risk).
- Benzodiazepines (Xanax, Valium) - high dependence, tolerance, and rebound anxiety aggravated on Tren/cycle.
Non- Selective Beta Blockers (To Control Anxiety/Aggression)
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- Propranol (10-40 mg (as required), 1- 2 times/day (maximum 1-2 times/day)) -non-selective beta blocker. Lessens physical anxiety symptoms (rapid heart rate, chills, sweats) - highly beneficial on Tren as an aggression/paranoia agent. Will not knock you out as benzos would do — will keep you on your feet.
- Dose: 1020 mg situation (pre-social or on occasions where aggression rises) -40mg/day divided as necessary.
- Why optimized: No mental fog, no addictive effect, cycle-safe (no prolactin/E2 effect).
- Nadolol (20–40 mg/day) - longer-acting non-selective substitute in case propranol is too short.
Extra Tips for Sleep Mastery:
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- Hydration balance: Drink day, cut evening (no night pees)
- Magnesium (natural from diet or glycinate if needed) — relaxes muscles (cramps from training).
- No caffeine post-noon: Half-life long — crashes GH.
- Apnea fix: Back sleep + weight loss — consult if snoring/gasping maybe get lefort for free.
- Temperature hacks: Cold shower pre-bed or ice pack feet — core temp drop for faster sleep.
Personal: Dark room + blackout blinds + mask + red glasses evening + secretagogues pre-bed+ gh = 9–10h deep sleep nightly. Recovery insane
What sleep hacks you running bros? Favorite for GH pulses/circadian/recovery?
Photos: My dark setup + mask + red glasses.
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different amounts depending on people6mg melatonin is enough
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. block blue light from screens/lamps (red/orange tint glasses ~$10–$20) — preserves melatonin (no blue light cope 1h pre-bed).
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