Why IBA angle is idiotic (1 Viewer)

[Harpy]

(I wrote a nice organized thread before but I accidentally deleted the tap and it went away so I'm doing this fast)

IBA angle is a measurement developed by Jordan Wood designed to see the upper maxillary projection. Where you pin point the Intertragic notch, Browridge, Ala of nose.

View: https://youtu.be/m_Dve8wh6Mo

(Jordan Wood himself "pre-ascension")
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Why it fails:

1- Browridge Prominence ​

If someone has a very prominent browridge it pushes point B (the browridge) forward. Which makes the angle narrower and lower. For example I will be using browridge daddies Henry Cavill and Ian Somerhalder.

As you can see they both got 51-52 angle. Which is considered pretty recessed. Even though they don't have maxillary recession. (Or that big of it.)

Meanwhile:

Suddenly he has a MUCH "better maxilla".

2- Ear Setness​

If someone has low set ears. It lowers point A. Making the measurement lower.

3- Soft Tissue​

If someone has high edema in his nose and subcutaneous fat it can make the measurement look worse.

Which is fine really. But if you're eyeballing it. It'll mess up things a lot.

Off Topic:​

he always uses this picture of Brooke Shields in his video as an example:

Which is NOT her real side. She's bringing her face and neck very forward. And in the full picture she isn't standing straight at all. Her real side looks more like this (although the angle is still somehow not ideal.)

Which is still very good. Elite even. But not like the first one. I see ppl using that all the time and it pisses me off because it's literally morphed.

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[Harpy]

There's a bad placement of a photo. His photo actually. It's supposed to be after "Jordan Wood himself, pre-ascension" but it didn't get placed properly at all. You can see the pic in attachments though.

 

[XvideosDemon]

(I wrote a nice organized thread before but I accidentally deleted the tap and it went away so I'm doing this fast)

IBA angle is a measurement developed by Jordan Wood designed to see the upper maxillary projection. Where you pin point the Intertragic notch, Browridge, Ala of nose.

View: https://youtu.be/m_Dve8wh6Mo

(Jordan Wood himself "pre-ascension")
​

Why it fails:

1- Browridge Prominence ​

If someone has a very prominent browridge it pushes point B (the browridge) forward. Which makes the angle narrower and lower. For example I will be using browridge daddies Henry Cavill and Ian Somerhalder.
View attachment 38406
View attachment 38407
As you can see they both got 51-52 angle. Which is considered pretty recessed. Even though they don't have maxillary recession. (Or that big of it.)

Meanwhile:
View attachment 38417​

Suddenly he has a MUCH "better maxilla".

2- Ear Setness​

If someone has low set ears. It lowers point A. Making the measurement lower.View attachment 38420

3- Soft Tissue​

If someone has high edema in his nose and subcutaneous fat it can make the measurement look worse.
View attachment 38425
Which is fine really. But if you're eyeballing it. It'll mess up things a lot.

Off Topic:​

he always uses this picture of Brooke Shields in his video as an example: View attachment 38427
Which is NOT her real side. She's bringing her face and neck very forward. And in the full picture she isn't standing straight at all. Her real side looks more like this (although the angle is still somehow not ideal.)View attachment 38428

Which is still very good. Elite even. But not like the first one. I see ppl using that all the time and it pisses me off because it's literally morphed.

END​

Mirin

 

[Harpy]

Mirin

It's water tbh

 

[FoidSlayer]

It's water tbh

Yeah it is..... Delete this

 

[nineteen]

Mirin

is this @Samtheman

 

[Dexter]

interesting

wouldn't a better angle be from porion -> nasion -> subnasale (for maxilla) or pogonion (for mandible)?

 

[XvideosDemon]

It's water tbh

Yeah ik js wanted to say that

 

[nineteen]

(I wrote a nice organized thread before but I accidentally deleted the tap and it went away so I'm doing this fast)

IBA angle is a measurement developed by Jordan Wood designed to see the upper maxillary projection. Where you pin point the Intertragic notch, Browridge, Ala of nose.

View: https://youtu.be/m_Dve8wh6Mo

(Jordan Wood himself "pre-ascension")
​

Why it fails:

1- Browridge Prominence ​

If someone has a very prominent browridge it pushes point B (the browridge) forward. Which makes the angle narrower and lower. For example I will be using browridge daddies Henry Cavill and Ian Somerhalder.
View attachment 38406
View attachment 38407
As you can see they both got 51-52 angle. Which is considered pretty recessed. Even though they don't have maxillary recession. (Or that big of it.)

Meanwhile:
View attachment 38417​

Suddenly he has a MUCH "better maxilla".

2- Ear Setness​

If someone has low set ears. It lowers point A. Making the measurement lower.View attachment 38420

3- Soft Tissue​

If someone has high edema in his nose and subcutaneous fat it can make the measurement look worse.
View attachment 38425
Which is fine really. But if you're eyeballing it. It'll mess up things a lot.

Off Topic:​

he always uses this picture of Brooke Shields in his video as an example: View attachment 38427
Which is NOT her real side. She's bringing her face and neck very forward. And in the full picture she isn't standing straight at all. Her real side looks more like this (although the angle is still somehow not ideal.)View attachment 38428

Which is still very good. Elite even. But not like the first one. I see ppl using that all the time and it pisses me off because it's literally morphed.

END​

good job

 

[jflnicas]

mirin

 

[nineteen]

Mirin

vc now fag

 

[Harpy]

Yeah it is..... Delete this

First thread bhai

 

[FoidSlayer]

First thread bhai

I was joking

 

[Harpy]

interesting

wouldn't a better angle be from porion -> nasion -> subnasale (for maxilla) or pogonion (for mandible)?

Yes. But easier ones are facial convexity angle (if it's your pic/pic you're sure isn't frauded) or the maxillary triangle.

 

[Harpy]

I was joking

Ik that's why I put that corny ass emoji