Discussion How do you value yourself and others? (1 Viewer)

[Perfectionist]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

I believe I should be liked for what I am to people, what they think about me, even en if it is negative. In the same way I like people for what they have done to others and to themselves, bcz it can be a beneficial thing they could've done or a shallow thing.

 

[Chuck Yeager]

Never said that
I can commit strategic, pre-planned immoral acts
I just reject the cattle's definition of righteousness

then what is righteous to you? how can your idea of morals be objective? with no proof, then morals, just like your idea of being superior, are just an opinion

 

[Perfectionist]

You Sufi by any chance?

No

 

[Razi]

No

Oh damn

 

[Perfectionist]

Not for the dark triad ones



No

Well I don't think any child is naturally hateful, they are always taught to hate someone that their parents dislike, this goes on for generations then.

 

[Godveil Heir]

then what is righteous to you? how can your idea of morals be objective?

Righteous is what I feel is righteous
I don't want cattle to agree with me, all that matters is my ability to enforce my will
Whether by manipulating, persuasion or by fear
Idc about morals jfl
I do what serves my interests

 

[Razi]

P Plato humble them

 

[nineteen]

This nigga is just saying stuff

 

[Perfectionist]

Righteous is what I feel is righteous
I don't want cattle to agree with me, all that matters is my ability to enforce my will
Whether by manipulating, persuasion or by fear
Idc about morals jfl
I do what serves my interests

Respectable, do what you want, if it seems good to you then who am I say if you're wrong or right.

 

[determinism]

love it when good discussion threads are made and only have 30 posts within an hour but then a shitpost thread has nearly 500 in 30 minutes

 

[Godveil Heir]

Well I don't think any child is naturally hateful, they are always taught to hate someone that their parents dislike, this goes on for generations then.

Personality is mostly genetic
and children are literally selfish, their empathy is underdeveloped

 

[Perfectionist]

love it when good discussion threads are made and only have 30 posts within an hour but then a shitpost thread has nearly 500 in 30 minutes

Talking bout me

 

[Chuck Yeager]

Righteous is what I feel is righteous
I don't want cattle to agree with me, all that matters is my ability to enforce my will
Whether by manipulating, persuasion or by fear
Idc about morals jfl
I do what serves my interests

then your idea of righteousness is an opinion, same with your idea of superiority

 

[Godveil Heir]

love it when good discussion threads are made and only have 30 posts within an hour but then a shitpost thread has nearly 500 in 30 minutes

It's just buzzword babbling retard wanting to debate morality
It's a retarded topic, no better than the ones you call shitpost

 

[Godveil Heir]

then your idea of righteousness is an opinion, same with your idea of superiority

Monkey

 

[Razi]

Monkey

Omg make the debate a lil interesting

 

[Perfectionist]

Personality is mostly genetic
and children are literally selfish, their empathy is underdeveloped

Toddlers yes, they don't give a shit about the people they know, but with strangers they seem to be quiet and stop being mischievous. But pre-toddlers (idk the term) don't seem to be hateful and are curious about the world. ( Speaking from my experience from what Ive seen)

 

[Firstsubhuman]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

its not, why would it be?

 

[Godveil Heir]

Toddlers yes, they don't give a shit about the people they know, but with strangers they seem to be quiet and stop being mischievous. But pre-toddlers (idk the term) don't seem to be hateful and are curious about the world. ( Speaking from my experience from what Ive seen)

Infants?
They don't even comprehend shit jfl
They're just instinctive

 

[Razi]

Ethics debates are ass anyways next time make a metaphysics one

 

[Perfectionist]

Infants?
They don't even comprehend shit jfl
They're just instinctive

Not infants like kids around 2-4 yrs old, pretty sure toddlers are 5-7 (mb if im wrong)

 

[Perfectionist]

Infants?
They don't even comprehend shit jfl
They're just instinctive

But yeah agree with the fact that they're instinctive

 

[Chuck Yeager]

Monkey

why so hostile? if anything this is more proof you aren't superior

 

[Chuck Yeager]

why so hostile? if anything this is more proof you aren't superior

idk why i put freud in here

 

[Razi]

why so hostile? if anything this is more proof you aren't superior

Pic has no correlation whatsoever